The BatManSalad Eater! Building the BEST Unkillable team yet?
Unkillable teams have been one of the areas of Raid Shadow Legends that have been growing and growing in variety and capability over the past 12months. DeadWood Jedi was one of the Pioneers of this movement working with his team to build a calculator that shows how speed works and how it can interact with the Clan Boss.
A number of Champions have been involved but ask anyone and they would agree the best way to build this style of team is to have TWO Maneaters as the compositions enable you to ignore affinity and stuns!
This team was the brainchild of TheDragonsBeard, Bobo, and Optilink and maybe the best one yet! Please note you cannot use relentless on this build!
A 2:1 ration unkillable team with two Maneaters, Seeker, Ma’Shalled, and a DPS champion. (I am using Dracomorph)
This is the BatManSalad Eater!
The Setup! (Hard, Brutal, Nightmare & Ultra Nightmare and against all affinities! DIFFERENT FROM VIDEO!!)
TURN 1: ME1 A2, ME2 A2, MA’ A2 the A3, Seeker A1, Draco A3
TURN 2: ME1 A1, ME2 A3, MA’S A1, Seeker A1, Draco A2, ME1 A1, ME2 A1
TURN 3: MA’S A2 then A3, Seeker A2 then A1, ME 1 A2
THEN AUTO
Maneater
Speed: 288
Crit rate: As much as possible – 100%
Crit Damage
Attack
Cap HP – 40k
No accuracy Req!
Maneater
Speed: 288-289
Crit rate: As much as possible – 100%
Crit Damage
Attack
Cap HP – 40k
No accuracy req!
Dracomorph
Dracomorph can be any DPS champion, Ideally Fayne, Venus, or Draco to ensure Damage and Poison!
Speed: 191
Crit rate: 100%
Crit Damage: 200%+
Attack: 4k+
Accuracy: 230-270
MA’SHALLED
Speed: 239-241
Crit rate: As much as possible – 100%
Crit Damage
Attack
No accuracy Req!
Build Details Here
Seeker
Speed: 224-225
Crit rate: As much as possible – 100%
Crit Damage
Attack
No accuracy Req!
Masteries
This is awesome stuff… Thanks to all that worked on this
I’m so jealous, I don’t have a 2nd man-eater but i do have a warcaster and I’ve been waiting to see if anyone knows how to build a comp like this but with warcaster instead of 2nd man-eater
Theres Batman Forever if you have a Santa/ tower to go with your warcaster still runs at a 2:1 ratio with seeker in there!
how do you get the new CB calculator?
I had trouble with the speed parameters so i ended up having to use the exact speeds HH had on his team. Relentless didn’t work for me but i think possibly reflex could be good for draco
I updated the setup to be affinity friendly and work on Brutal and NM too!
I am having issues with the Uk’s syncing with these speeds:
ME1=289, ME2=288, MA’S=241, Seeker=230, Draco=193
First test of this is on UNM Spirit, which shouldnt make a difference
Any help/suggestions?
NM, I could have sworn that the range on ME’s was 287-289
see my updated comments here man. 287-287 and a different set up to make it stable on everything!!
I have one at 287 and one at 288 now, but my 288 me’s health is 450ish over 40k on health…I think that may be what’s throwing it off? I am going to change out rings and get under 40k and see if that corrects it.
Well that wasn’t it. Unsyncs by turn 5. All 5 have the masteries shown above, fully booked and their speeds are now: ME1=288, ME2=287, Ma’S=241, Seeker=229 & Draco=193….followed new skill order setup until auto and it unsyncs a few turns later, i’m stumped at what it could be now.
Is it 287-287 or 287-288 as your comments and notes are different
Update:
I figured this thing out and it seems Ma’Shalled Needs to be at 239 spd. It was not working with 241 on him.
Final speeds for me: ME1=287, ME2=287, Ma’S=239, Seeker=229 & Draco=197
Just finished my first successful run @ 87.25M and my first UNM 1 key!! Thanks HH!
care to elaborate on your rotation? i’m trying the one above, and the one on the video, running your exact speeds, and it doesn’t work.
How many Speed sets does your slower Maneater have on him? Mine had 2 and it turned out that the calculated speed was below 287 (286.52). With 1 Speed set it probably is even lower. With three it would be at 287.28 and should work. My solution: I glyphed him to 288 and it worked (calculated speed now is 287.52).
not working for me
Me1 :288 Me2: 287 Mashalled : 239 Seeker :225 Belenor : 195
any tips?
It could be that the actual speed of your slower Maneater is too slow. I had the same problem and it turned out that the calculated (actual) speed was below 287. I have two Speed sets on him. Once I glyphed the speed to 288, it worked. You should get Deadwood Jedi’s CB calculator (the old one works for this) and put in Maneater’s speeds (base speed and total speed) and the number of Speed sets in the respective field (top left). You then get the calculated speed. If it’s below 287, try a total speed of 288 in the calculator to se whether calculated speed is above 287. Not sure whether it works if both Maneaters are at 288. M.y faster Maneater is at 289.
not working for me
Me1 :288 Me2: 287 Mashalled : 239 Seeker :225 Belenor : 195
any tips?
my mashall get decreased speed on spirit affinity
did you see the set up now listed here?
i ended up getting it to work
Me1 :287 Me2: 287 Mashalled: 239 Seeker:229- tried 225 didnt work :( belenor :191
yes i seen the update. just had to play with speeds.
Just made this comp (previously used the batman eater with Fayne and averaged 73 mil on UNM on void), now im at 82 mil on Magic. But…but… the best part, i redid my entire team for less than 5 mil silver. When i first made the Batman Eater, it cost me 50 mil. Thanks HH and the team that created the DPS optimizer, gear optimizer and this comp.
Ps: the optimizer is GucciBaby, Big thumbs up!
not working for me yet ,
Me1:287 Me2:287 Mashalled:239 Seeker:229 and Zavia:197, but on the first stun on auto seeker does not have the block buff and gets hit , any tips ?
I had the same problem, had to redo the speeds completely – my exact speeds are now me1:288, me2:287, mashalled:239, seeker:225, dps:191. this works with the posted turn order above
Ddo you need to book out mashalled?
dosen’t work in spirit, have a same mastery / speed / rotation, break speed at spirit rule the rotation
Hey Guys. I tried do make this comp stable. I tried that 288/287 and 287/287 Maneater speeds with Seeker 229 and Mashalled 239 with Draco on 297. Nothing worked with both rotations. Videro an and forum. It doesnt work. Tested under blue affinty. Masterys are safe. Something get wrong in the first five 5 rounds where someone gets a stun. Other trys get desynced between round 11-18. More than that are not possible. Something is wrong with ther speeds. The speed window between the champs arte too big. We need more specific timings to work safe whatever the ammount of speed sets used. . Does anyone have more specific timings to work that safe? Or where are the gabs between the heroes?
sorry draco was on 197 and 193.
it is strange team…
culculator says ok…practice says: you looser…
how to build speeds for heroes?
Hi HH,
Thanks for this great guide!
I have 1 addition to do more dmg delay Ma’Shalled his A3 ability 1 turn (so he has also the atk up from seeker in the whole fight).
Start up sequence will be:
TURN 1: ME1 A2, ME2 A2, MA’ A2 the A1, Seeker A1, Draco A3
TURN 2: ME1 A1, ME2 A3, MA’S A1, Seeker A1, Draco A2, ME1 A3, ME2 A1
TURN 3: MA’S A2 then A1, Seeker A2 then A1, ME 1 A2
THEN AUTO
Greetz
Merzly
I don’t understand why it doesn’t work. Based on a calculator from deadwoodjedi, everything is fine, but it doesn’t work in reality.
ME_1 288 (real speed 288.28 – 3x speed set)
ME_2 287 (real speed 287.28 – 3x speed set)
MaShalled 239 (real speed 238.72 – 2x speed set)
Seeker 229 (real speed 229.07 – 3x speed set)
Dracomorph 191 (real speed 191.00 – 0x speed set)
It will be decided already in round 5. All have the same masteries (ATT / DEF) as the Maneater.
Can anyone help?
I allredy check also Seeker with speed 222 (does´t worl too).
Now it´s working without problem. See details.
ME_1 289 (real speed 289.28 – 3x speed set)
ME_2 287 (real speed 287.28 – 3x speed set)
MaShalled 239 (real speed 238.72 – 2x speed set)
Seeker 225 (real speed 224.72 – 2x speed set)
Dracomorph 191 (real speed 191.00 – 0x speed set)
TURN 1: ME1 A2, ME2 A2, MA’ A2 the A3, Seeker A2 the A1, Draco A3, ME1 A1, ME2 A1,
TURN 2: MA’S A1, ME1 A3, Seeker A1, ME2 A1, Draco A2, ME1 A2, MA’ A2 the A3
TURN 3: ME 2 A2
THEN AUTO
Same for NM / UNM