How do you win the speed race in the arena in Raid: Shadow Legends?
This is a commonly asked question that we receive and have put together this article to help you find the best solution for your team.
Building your speed lead in full speed sets is very important because it boosts your speed by 12% for each completed set and you can have 3 on each build (this is boosting your base speed, not overall speed) therefore you will have boosted your speed lead’s speed by 36%.
If you have the divine speed set then it will also help you in the overall fight as it gives +15% hp shield for 3 turns, therefore the champion won’t just be a speed booster as it will have other stats which can aid your survivability should you get hit.
Speed aura is very important when it comes to boosting speed in the arena as it gives an extra % of speed to the entire team when a person with a speed aura is in the lead position.
An aura is when a champion can boost a certain stat in certain parts of the game, for example, Skullcrown has a speed aura of 23% in the arena so she boosts her whole team’s speed by 23% when placed in the leader position in the arena.
This aura’s really helpful when in the arena because that extra boost of speed could be the difference between you going first and winning or you going second and getting nuked.
When you build your speed booster you need to get the best sub stat of speed on your speed sets as the minor numbers will play a massive part on if you beat the opposite speed booster or not. It’s all about the small numbers as you go up into the platinum rank because they will have all the best speed gear and stats in order to beat you.
So to counter this play you need to go faster. It doesn’t matter what the primary stat is as long as you get the speed in the artifacts but if you can get the correct primary stats then that’s a bonus.
Your speed lead needs to have at least 100 base speed as a minimum otherwise you’ll lose the race before it’s even started. This is because the speed set and aura are based on the champions base speed so the % will give more if your speed booster has more base speed.
You also want your speed booster to increase turn meter rather than increase speed buff because the turn meter is instant and lets your team go next.
Right now it’s time for some maths! When you’ve built your speed booster with its maxed speed stats you cannot forget the second person in your team needs to have a great speed as well otherwise the opposition will cut in and boost their team’s speed.
Therefore the second person in your team needs to have the speed boosters speed divided by their turn meter boost.
So say the speed lead has 250 speed with 30% turn meter increase you would do 250/1.3 which equals 193. So your second champion would need to have this amount to not be cut in. I hope this makes sense to you guys!
There is a really useful speed calculation tool located here that can help you tune your team for success.
For more tips and tricks watch the video below!
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How do I reach Plat ? It seems there is a figure I need to reach, then after a few fights it goes up, meaning always seems out of reach…
Don’t even try… Thats a place for the megawhales with basiclly perfect gear and +4 trundas.
It’s basiccally impossible
im between bronce iv and silver ii. Im in the arbiter’s mission of get silver III and its almost imposible. I even choose people who doesnt have an speed aura leader, with my 220 speed high katuhn and they beat my speed. I dont even know how aren’t they in gold… it’s so frustrating…
I’m in Silver 4 with an uncuttable 269 speed High Khatun, but my defense loses too much to let me get to Gold. The current matchmaking system is dumb. I have 660 k player power and is going up against very strong opponents.
Just farm the boss of palace of Aravia bin brutal to get double roll speed 5 star speed gear. Should get you to about 240 speed minimum.
In bronze IV with a 228 speed Lyssandra and not even winning the speed race half the time…
Just too slow… Put your FASTEST speed gear on your speed lead.
To be perfectly frank, this whole ‘speed’ mechanic is kinda dumb. It simply becomes an arm race to see who can get the best speed gear on a single champion. If you win the arms race on that ONE champion, the rest hardly even matters! Why? Because the way this game is set up, there is too much damage and not enough survival. The arena fights don’t last enough turns, and if you go first, you basically win every time. Even if your initial combo doesn’t nuke the enemy team, they will always be one tempo behind—your 2nd round will finish the deal.
Come on admit it, this is kinda dumb. There could be a lot more intelligent back and forth turns in an arena fight if it wasn’t such a nukefest.
I wouldn’t mind seeing the speed mechanic completely redesigned because to be frank as it currently stands its really boring and turns me off of arena fights. If I see a team with a speed hero I suspect or know beats my speed hero, I don’t even fight it. Its unwinnable. Literally nothing I can do. NOTHING. And that is dumb as fck. Even if I have champions who could combo something beautiful and intricate, it literally doesn’t matter, because the fight is lost in a single turn, to a single champion.
One dimensional. Bad. It should be better.
You want to know why you keep losing? IT’S BECAUSE YOU HAVE WORSE GEAR THAN THEM! You can’t expect that you’ll win fights if you have worse gear. If you want to play a different game, THEN FUCKING DO IT!
Or more specifically, remove champions that ‘fill turn meter’. Get rid of that garbage. Then it can go back to the more random back and forth that matches used to be at lower ranks, where one of my champions would fire off, then one of theirs, then one of mine, etc. But when the entire enemy team fires off, and then their turn meter fills up *during* the combo and they fire a SECOND time and I still haven’t had a single skill go off on my team… its just not fun. Its not fun at all. Its a bad mechanic.
It is not. You just dislike it. THERE’S A DIFFERENCE. It’s a good mechanic. Bulky teams work great as defenses, but this is the current meta. Litterally, speed is king. Raid is defined by it, and it is a good mechanic. Go play a different game.
this is very true
im.sorry to say but if you keep on losing the speed race its not the games fault. its YOUR FAULT for not having enough speed. speed is just a simple mechanic in the game.
speed is exactly like accuracy you cant blame the game if u never place any debuffs, thats just because u didnt get much acc
My actual arena team is:
Gorgorab (243 Speed)
Dhukk (192 Speed)
Abbess (184 Speed)
Kael (179 Speed)
I got some questions on this.
1. Should I replace Gororab with a Khatun? I got 2 unleveled ones, so I have to spend much time to rank one up and equip her. I would do this, if she is the much better choice as lead
2. What speed is necessary to reach gold 1? (I am stuck between silver 3 and 4)
3. Another possibility would be, to replace Kael with a Khatun or a seeker (I am speed limited here because I want to use him on an unkillable cb team)
@crankyjack. I used Gorgorab, apothecary, tayrel and ninja to reach gold 1. Warmaiden would be better in this comp because of the increase attack gorg brings. Anyway, I am running well over 300spd.
Dhukk is still probably better, if anyone survives the nukes. I have 270 speed and is winning most speed races i Gold I, but can’t hold there because of all the bulky defenses. I could get about 15 more speed by 6-starring her and giving her a banner. Gorgorab is great, esspecially if you have any reaction accesories. His revive is so annoying to face! Anyway, about swapping out Kael, only do if you have another nuke. In that case, go for it. I have an uncuttable team using Deadwoods arena calculator, consisting of High Khatun, Warmaiden, Runekeeper Darzdurk and Skullcrown, and is between Silver IV and Gold I. I hope this will help!
I agree with most of the comments above. Not much seems to matter but speed. If I go first I win 90% of the time, if I go second I lose almost 100% of the time. There are so many stats/substats, the arena shouldn’t only be about 1 stat, speed. It’s very frustrating to be stuck with little chance for advancement until I become a speed king. Nothing else is necessary to win other than some mediocre nukers.
Raid is all about speed. It’s that simple. You mentioned that you win a lot while you outspeed, and it’s like that for almost everyone. If you’re annoyed by this, Nub Raids recently started an arena series that covers different arena teams. He showed how to build a go second team, as well as a cut in team. Both of these are fairly champion spesific, but if you’re struggling to win the speed race they are decent alternatives. Otherwise, just farm for better speed gear. I don’t like farming for faster gear either, but it undoubtably works. I hope this will help you, and the speed teams in the arena isn’t the only meta, it’s just the easiest to build.
i been tryin to get into gold 3 for 7weeks now but still cant get there
Yeah, Gold sucks. I’m guessing you want to get there for the Arbiter missions, so let’s hope Plaruim fixes both those and the Gold point system soon (I’m currently stuck on the “Get to gold II” mission).
So, to counter this question, “how do you beat speed teams?” I’m using Rhazin Scarhide as my lead (Aura = +90 resist), along with Draco, BEK and Scyl for stun and revive, I have been pretty successful against higher rated teams with Arbiter
You won’t be winning against good teams though. What would happen there is that you’d just get killed. My midgame Yumeko build has 783 acc and 252 speed, so if I would fight that team I could just put her in lead and EASILY lock you out. Then my Madame can strip you and drop defense, my Rotos can kill one cahmp and deal some damage to another, and then my Skullcrown makes me win. YOU FOCUS TOO LITTLE ON SURVIVING. Besides, If I’d just put in Arb, Rotos, Madame ad Yumeko, and you somehow had 900+ resistance I’d just kill your Scyl and then slowly beat the rest of your team.
A big tip: Grind arena REALLY EARLY.
I got gold 1 within 3 weeks on my alt because the game matchmakes based on your power.
It gets way harder later on so save some effort and grind early.
Is it uncommon to be in Gold 1 / Silver 4 with speed below 200?
I just have attack champions in life-steal gear/relentless.
They are:
Sachi Lvl. 60 Relentless and immortal (Spd 125)
Kael Lvl. 60 Life-steal and perception (Spd 187)
Deliana Lvl. 50 Accuracy and Immortal (Spd 130)
Apothecary Lvl. 50 Speed and Shield (Spd 183)
No. My high katun has 198 and served me until Lyssandra. (Gold 2-3)
For a reliable FTP go-second team, here is one (If u have bad Immunity gear, then u have to build high resist):
Lead: Rhazin Scarehide (4000+ Def, over 40k HP, Set: Immunity and perception)
Duchess Lilitu (2000+ Def, over 80k HP, Set: 3x res)
Drexthar Bloodtwin (lots of accuracy, def and res. 40k HP.)
Last slot: A healer or another bulky damage deal. I use Miscreated Monster (80k+ HP, accuracy and res).
I use this as a team on my tag team offence and have 80-90% win rate going second. Speed requirement is 170.
Yes, F2P viable with a Duchess. The main reason that team doesn’t get wrecked is because you’re not encountering lots of strips, high acc Yumekos/Warlords or just anyone with block revive. Also, without -25% damage reduction from Duchesses passive that team would crumble.
So, where do I go once my 319 speed Apothecary with Arbiter’s 30% speed aura and a level 1 Intimidating Presence blessing is no longer fast enough? Do I weaken my defense, let my rank drop, then build it back up and just appreciate that I can finally make it into Gold V at 3500 points?
What about 3v3? I need two more teams. I’m about to fall back into Bronze III because I can barely win anymore. I think my next fastest team may only have about 280 speed. Is that fast enough or do I use another strategy?
My tip is to handpick your battles in normal arena. Slow teams (without busted leggos) should be pretty easy to beat (because of 20 losses per day there are lots of weak/one man people in Gold V), and I find myself with a 330 (326 until very recently) Arbiter winning most speed races. For TTA 280 is fine for now in a second team if you have min 20% speed aura, and the third team should be a go second. Then you’ll keep growing your roster and gear, and when you get to missions like Silver 3 to Gold 1 TTA you might either have improved your second speed or have the champs to build 2 go seconds. And have one man defenses in TTA during the week for easy farming, and then push during the weekend.
For me it’s been pretty easy to stay in Gold 4 for a while now even with a crappy Arena team. I even reached Gold 5 a couple of times. My defense team is High Khatun (speed 234), Scyl, Stag Knight and Miscreated Monster. My attack team is Ultimate Deathknight (Lead), Scyl, Stag Knight and Miscreated Monster, all really tanky so I can take the first hits and then start taking them out one by one. I just pick my targets avoiding Arbiter teams, unless she is alone which happens quite often for some reason :)
Your teams are awful, but the arena is a joke rn.
A lot of people i see in the upper coments have wrong mentality. First of all a lot of people play this game longer than you and so if you think you should be winning more with 250 speed you are wrong. My booster is 345 speed and i loose too. Arena is not about speed if you know fundamentals and have correct champs. You guys loose 90 percent of time because you go speed team vs speed team. in that case if you loose speed race you loose. If you build go 2nd team which are specifically build around loosing speed race you win. Tactics are more than you think but with shitty gear you cant expect that players that farm day and night are gonna loose to you cause you rather pulling shards than farming gear :p
The thing with go seconds is that they are so champ dependent. I’m a late midgame player with ridicoulous shard luck (close to beating hard dt, about half factions done in fw), and I can only build 1 decent go second team. Most just get destroyed by a decent go first until you’re late game.
Not necessarily true. I primarily use a go second team and the key is a good cleanser. Really as soon as you have one that you can build with enough resistance to resist the opening debuffs from the enemy team you can build a go second team. I run HP lead (HP based ally protect champ in bolster set), decrease defense champ who brings shield (bolster sets do stack), cleanser (fastest speed on your team and as high as you can push resistance), then a nuker with some way to survive (HP or defense based work well or stoneskin, etc) and there ya go. If your cleanser is consistently getting debuffed you need more resistance.